Legislature(2009 - 2010)FAHRENKAMP 203

01/21/2010 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 21, 2010                                                                                        
                           9:00 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Linda Menard, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Kevin Meyer, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Senator Albert Kookesh                                                                                                          
Senator Joe Paskvan                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW - DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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JOE SCHMIDT, COMMISSIONER                                                                                                       
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented an overview of the Department of                                                               
Corrections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DWAYNE PEEPLES, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER                                                                                             
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented an overview of the Department of                                                               
Corrections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:00:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LINDA  MENARD called  the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at  9:00 AM.  Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Menard, Meyer, French and Paskvan.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             ^Overview - Department of Corrections                                                                          
              Overview - Department of Corrections                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
9:00:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD announced today's agenda  to be an Overview from the                                                               
Department of Corrections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  JOE  SCHMIDT,  of the  Department  of  Corrections,                                                               
introduced  himself and  Dwayne Peeples,  Deputy Commissioner  of                                                               
the Department of Corrections.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:03:06 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KOOKESH joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT,  Department of  Corrections (DOC),  said he                                                               
appreciated those who get involved  in issues and care about what                                                               
the  department  is  doing.  He  said he  would  talk  about  the                                                               
department's focus  and the Goose  Creek prison. If  Alaska needs                                                               
another prison, it makes sense to have it in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  said there was  a great deal  of resistance                                                               
from  the legislature  and community  areas.  However, once  talk                                                               
changed to  focus on regionalization,  getting some of  the rural                                                               
folk home  to their communities  and downsizing the  main prison,                                                               
it started  to gain  steam. He  said the  department's job  is to                                                               
figure out  how to build fewer  prisons over the long  term. More                                                               
focus  is needed  on reform  and changing  behavior. Commissioner                                                               
Schmidt said  Brian Brandenburg,  a mental health  clinician, was                                                               
brought  in to  be Deputy  Director  and to  architect a  program                                                               
plan; he used evidence based programs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:35 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT  related that  at  the  2008 Crime  Summit,                                                               
Senator  French  brought Mr.  Steve  Aos  from Washington  [State                                                               
Institute of  Public Policy].  Mr. Aos  spoke about  the positive                                                               
effects of evidence  based programs. The Institute  of Social and                                                               
Economic  Research  (ISER)  was  hired  to  convert  the  numbers                                                               
provided  from  Washington  to  Alaska's  economy.  The  Criminal                                                               
Justice Work  Group was created  that included the  Department of                                                               
Health and Social  Services and the Court system.  A program plan                                                               
was  funded and  has been  implemented; and  the substance  abuse                                                               
program has  been running  since April. In  three to  five years,                                                               
numbers from  ISER or another entity  will be used to  expand the                                                               
it. In  the meantime, The  Department of Corrections  is tracking                                                               
numbers to  see how the program  is doing and where  the problems                                                               
are. The program started in April,  so those who went through the                                                               
three month program have been out  for about six months now. More                                                               
time must be allowed to see how it is going.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:09:26 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  spoke about  moving prisoners  from Arizona                                                               
to Hudson,  Colorado, and  how some prisons  were closing  due to                                                               
the poor economy.  This indicates that the value of  a prison bed                                                               
is changing. He had the deputy  commissioner send out a letter of                                                               
interest to  prisons interested in taking  Alaska's prisoners. It                                                               
created competition and the price per prisoner dropped.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD asked if the cost per prisoner was $6 per day.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT responded  that it is $4 per  day. For 1,000                                                               
prisoners, that  is a substantial  amount of money. He  said that                                                               
Hudson, Colorado's prison came out  the best financially; it is a                                                               
brand  new  facility that  has  only  Alaskan prisoners  so  far.                                                               
Hudson also  looks very much  like Goose  Creek is going  to look                                                               
and he hopes  to build a daily schedule at  Goose Creek that will                                                               
be similar to Hudson's.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:12:06 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD asked what the square footage or acreage is.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT answered  that it  is about  1,000 x  1,500                                                               
feet and  is modeled as  a community  within a community.  It's a                                                               
medium  custody facility  with the  capability of  holding higher                                                               
security  prisoners  when needed.  It  is  similar to  a  maximum                                                               
security  facility   but  without  a  tower.   Inside  the  tight                                                               
perimeter is  a functioning community. Commissioner  Schmidt said                                                               
prisoners adapt  to prison, but it  would be better if  they stay                                                               
adapted to a regular life within  the confines of a micro society                                                               
as this life is most effective for recidivism.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:13:59 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT said  the department looked at  using the 25                                                               
- 30 empty  beds at a halfway  house in Bethel that  has 130 beds                                                               
for a sex offender program. He  said they don't let prisoners out                                                               
of jail early  for this program; it's not a  furlough program. He                                                               
explained that  typically after a  prisoner has served  his time,                                                               
afterwards he  or she  was stuck  in Anchorage  to get  the court                                                               
ordered  follow-up  treatment,  because it  wasn't  available  in                                                               
their village. All  the people who would be willing  to help them                                                               
reenter  their society  were  out in  their  rural communities  -                                                               
which he found  would welcome these people back. He  hoped to get                                                               
them at least to a "hub community" where they would be closer.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT said  the department  went straight  to the                                                               
community  and asked  if it  would or  would not  work there.  He                                                               
stated that the new sex  offender program is now functioning well                                                               
in Bethel;  it has  the support of  the women's  resource center,                                                               
and the community seems to embrace the idea.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:16:29 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT explained a situation  in which a person had                                                               
served his  jail time and  was complying with all  his condition,                                                               
living in  the program, got  a job at  the gas station,  and they                                                               
knew from his  file that he does A,  then he does B, then  C is a                                                               
sex offense. They  found that a young girl  was working somewhere                                                               
close that he didn't tell them  about; that would A. Then when he                                                               
walks  to work  he  diverted  a little  bit;  that's  B. So  they                                                               
"violate him" and put him back  in jail for whatever condition of                                                               
treatment. He learned  something about himself that  day. But did                                                               
he fail? Commissioner  Schmidt didn't think so. That  is what the                                                               
program should be doing.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said  the Department  of Corrections is  working very  hard on                                                               
reentry programs. A  lot of community groups  do different pieces                                                               
of reentry.  They are getting  a list of  who they are  and where                                                               
their  money comes  from. He  foresees the  department forming  a                                                               
task force  and possibly qualifying  for federal grant  money. He                                                               
stated  that  without  good reentry,  all  other  programs  don't                                                               
matter. The mission statement  is secure confinement, reformative                                                               
programming and supervised re-entry.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:37 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT said Goose Creek  is slated to open in March                                                               
2012, but  bringing prisoners back  to Alaska won't save  tons of                                                               
money  - and  he added  that this  was never  promised. So  there                                                               
won't be a  crushing pressure to fill  it in a week;  it may take                                                               
six to eight months to ensure that everything works.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  said recruitment plan is  working well. The                                                               
correctional officer  count was  689 in 2006,  and last  year the                                                               
average for the year was 774.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:20:47 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER  suggested that the  reason it took Goose  Creek so                                                               
long  to get  the  green  light to  go  forward  is because  it's                                                               
cheaper to send prisoners Outside.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DWAYNE PEEPLES,  Deputy Commissioner, Department  of Corrections,                                                               
said  the actual  cost for  Red Rock  facility in  Arizona, under                                                               
Corrections  Corporation of  America  (CCA),  was probably  about                                                               
$75-$76 per  day. Colorado was  about $70 per day.  Goose Creek's                                                               
final calculations should be ready  in two weeks and will include                                                               
calculations  for   gas,  electric,  water  and   sewer.  He  was                                                               
expecting it  to run about $35  million per year. He  stated that                                                               
it will probably still be  cheaper to house prisoners outside the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER  said  when  considering  other  factors  such  as                                                               
prisoners having  family members close  by, being in  Alaska when                                                               
released, and the jobs and  economic benefits to the whole state,                                                               
it is OK that  the cost of keeping them here  is a little higher.                                                               
The State's correction  costs keep going up every  year and while                                                               
there is  support for the  Governor's plan for  tougher sentences                                                               
for  sexual assault  and domestic  violence, that  will add  even                                                               
more costs. Commissioner  Schmidt's plan to reduce  the folks who                                                               
repeatedly return to prison should help a lot.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:23:50 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT said  while  5 percent  of prisoners  don't                                                               
ever  get  out  of  prison,  95 percent  do.  He  does  not  have                                                               
information on  whom and how many  come back with him  today, but                                                               
two-thirds  have been  coming back  without any  kind of  program                                                               
plan or  reentry plan.  He doesn't  know yet  how many  folks the                                                               
Governor's  new initiative  will bring  into the  system and  how                                                               
many would have come in anyway.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER  said he  supports  what  Commissioner Schmidt  is                                                               
doing  to  eliminate  repeat offenders,  especially  with  sexual                                                               
assault and domestic violence.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:26:22 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease was announced at 9:26 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:30:00 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD called the meeting back to order at 9:30 AM.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEEPLES said the DOC  population has two components: managing                                                               
the  probation and  parole  group, about  6,000  people, and  the                                                               
incarcerated  population, about  5,650  people.  Of those  5,650,                                                               
almost 900  are in out-of-state  facilities and 3,800 are  in in-                                                               
state  facilities.  The rest  are  in  electronic monitoring  and                                                               
community  residential  centers.  A  year  ago  the  incarcerated                                                               
population unexplainably  dropped to  5,250 people. By  April, it                                                               
started climbing back up and he  expected that it would hit 5,700                                                               
in the  next month or so.  This population will continue  to grow                                                               
by 150  to 175  a year  for the  next five  to ten  years. Recent                                                               
statutory changes made third-time  misdemeanor assaults a felony.                                                               
This  increases  sentencing  and  adjudication  to  be  sentenced                                                               
numbers.  Other adjustments  to criminal  statutes over  the last                                                               
four to  five years  will also cause  this increase  to continue.                                                               
Goose  Creek will  have  1,536 beds  for  medium and  lightweight                                                               
prisoners.  The impact  of the  statutes  will be  on the  jails.                                                               
Anchorage, Nome, Kotzebue, Bethel  and Fairbanks will continue to                                                               
be heavily hit and require additional expenditures and capital.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:32:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PEEPLES   said  he   is  going  to   produce  a   report  on                                                               
construction, renovation  and growth  factors in those  areas for                                                               
the ten-year  plan. Goose Creek  started construction a  year ago                                                               
and substantial completion is anticipated  by November, 2011. The                                                               
facility will start holding people in  March of 2012 and be fully                                                               
occupied by  about June of 2012.  Mr. Peeples said he  expects no                                                               
great  delays  in  construction   and  to  have  reasonably  good                                                               
operational costs  in the next two  to three weeks. It  will have                                                               
close to  370 staff and the  staffing schedule will be  posted in                                                               
the next couple weeks. Of that 370,  340 or 330 will be new state                                                               
employees; others  will be transferred in  from other operational                                                               
units.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. PEEPLES  referred to two handouts  on Goose Creek. One  was a                                                               
December 2009 Project Status Report  produced by Rise Alaska, the                                                               
contractor managing  the project  for the  Matsu Borough  and the                                                               
state. A quick breakout of the financing was on the third page.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:35:56 AM                                                                                                                    
Mr. PEEPLES  reported that $67  million of the $242  million bond                                                               
has been  spent or obligated to  date.  In addition  to the bond,                                                               
the state allocated  $6 million in state capital funds  to put in                                                               
infrastructure  for   gas,  electric,  communications   and  some                                                               
roadwork; $2.1  million of that  has been spent. Steep  costs for                                                               
getting utilities out there were  anticipated. Projected costs of                                                               
$8  to $10  million ended  up being  $1 million.  Gas costs  were                                                               
reported at $750,000.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD remarked that this was a huge savings.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEEPLES  said  a  couple  of  analyses  in  accordance  with                                                               
legislative intent will be available in  the next two weeks.  One                                                               
looks  at  the  cost  of  Goose  Creek  and  the  possibility  of                                                               
privatization.  The  other one is a state-wide  facility plan and                                                               
consideration of where construction,  renovation and repair costs                                                               
will  be going  and how  the population  will be  managed in  the                                                               
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MENARD  asked about  feeding  the  prisoners. She  thought                                                               
something in the  statutes says they must be put  to work growing                                                               
food and Point MacKenzie has farms.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT  said  recent meetings  between  DNR,  farm                                                               
groups, and the DOC revealed that  the problem was that they were                                                               
not buying enough  local products. The department  is supposed to                                                               
buy local  if the  cost is  within 7 percent  and the  quality is                                                               
good.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:39:06 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD  said she has  had emails  about this and  said that                                                               
the Valley is rich in agriculture.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT   said  he  understands  that   and  thinks                                                               
Department  of  Corrections  should  buy  local.  He  hoped  that                                                               
problem is rectified this year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD asked  for a refresher on state  and regional prison                                                               
locations.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT responded that  the state has 12 facilities,                                                               
13  probation   field  offices  and   15  community   jails.  The                                                               
facilities are  in Anchorage, Matsu  in Palmer,  Point MacKenzie,                                                               
Sutton,  the Highland  Mountain Female  Facility in  Eagle River,                                                               
Yukon  Kuskokwim in  Bethel, Anvil  Mountain in  Nome, Fairbanks,                                                               
Lemon Creek  in Juneau,  Ketchikan, Spring  Creek in  Seward, and                                                               
Wildwood in Kenai.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD asked if females are merged into Goose Creek.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER JOE SCHMIDT replied no.  He added that 10 percent of                                                               
the  prison population  is female  but  20 percent  of growth  is                                                               
female. One  day there will  be a  need to expand  facilities for                                                               
females.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:41:56 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT said  the best way to  consider new problems                                                               
is to go out  and talk to the community. He gave  an example of a                                                               
community wanting  a trail  close to  a prison  fence; so  a land                                                               
swap is being arranged. Communities have  to be kept safe and the                                                               
DOC should  be working with  them. Goose  Creek was named  by the                                                               
community council.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MENARD  asked  what  the 20  percent  increase  of  female                                                               
offenders is attributed to.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  replied the  he would have  to find  out if                                                               
the  increase   is  alcohol,  theft  and/or   drug-related.  It's                                                               
increasing more  than it should  be for its low  numbers. Females                                                               
make up 10 percent of prison  population, 15 percent of the half-                                                               
way house  population and 20  percent of the  probation caseload.                                                               
He explained  that when the  prison population counts  dropped by                                                               
250 in 2008, he knew it would go  back up. A program plan was not                                                               
in place yet,  so it could not be attributed  to recidivism. Some                                                               
changes  with  population  management  were made  such  as  using                                                               
halfway  houses and  expanding  electronic  monitoring; he  would                                                               
like to think that a piece of the population responded to that.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:44:46 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  said the percentage  of Native  Alaskans in                                                               
the facilities has  been 36 percent for years. In  2008, the year                                                               
the prison  population dropped by  250 people, the  percentage of                                                               
Alaska Natives  went down to  34 percent.  So it seemed  that the                                                               
Alaska  Native  population  responded  to  something  that  year.                                                               
Prison population statistics have many driving.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEEPLES said  390 females  were incarcerated  based on  2008                                                               
data;  34 women  were there  for alcohol  related issues,  60 for                                                               
drugs, and 104 for assault.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MENARD asked who women are assaulting.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEEPLES  replied that  just meant  assault across  the board.                                                               
Sixty-eight women  were there for shoplifting  or property crimes                                                               
and 40 for public disorder.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked who keeps  prisoners in communities south of                                                               
Juneau, such as Wrangell and Petersburg.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT replied  that  15  communities have  jails.                                                               
These are generally  short term holding facilities with  10 or 20                                                               
beds  used for  people who  are getting  adjudicated -  then they                                                               
migrate  - usually  to  Juneau. Some  communities  like Sitka  or                                                               
Barrow have  embraced electronic monitoring.  It is nice  to have                                                               
that option if jail is not the right answer.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:48:16 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MENARD asked if the use  of monitoring has increased in the                                                               
last two years.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  JOE   SCHMIDT  answered   yes;  about   250  people                                                               
statewide are on electronic monitoring.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MENARD  asked  if  electronic   monitoring  uses  any  new                                                               
technology.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  answered yes;  improvements have  been made                                                               
in alcohol sniffing, bracelet monitoring,  and on GPS. Electronic                                                               
monitoring doesn't help recidivism, but  it is very cheap and the                                                               
program  has a  mid-90's success  rate.  For those  who fail  and                                                               
return  to jail,  it  is  due to  technical  violations, not  new                                                               
crimes. He  explained that the  department is very  careful about                                                               
whom they put on monitoring; it has to be the right person.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT  said an average  of 190 people a  month are                                                               
being put back  in jail for violating probation or  parole and 49                                                               
percent of those  coming back from probation and  parole have new                                                               
crimes. The right people are being  put back in jail. However, he                                                               
was  trying to  figure out  why  half of  the ones  who have  new                                                               
crimes, a  quarter of  the ones  who come  back, committed  a new                                                               
crime after some contact with the Court of Appeals.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:51:17 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH  asked  how  long   someone  is  in  a  Southeast                                                               
community jail before  being moved to Lemon Creek.  He asked what                                                               
the costs or guidelines are.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEEPLES  replied that  Ketchikan  is  a state  facility,  so                                                               
people who  are being  adjudicated in  Ketchikan stay  there. The                                                               
Department   of   Corrections   has  contracts   with   Wrangell,                                                               
Petersburg,  Sitka and  Craig communities  that have  city jails.                                                               
Term limits depend on the facility  and its beds. The cities want                                                               
to move people to where the courts will be serving them.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH  said  he  understood   that  people  who  commit                                                               
misdemeanors  stay  in  the  community. If  a  person  commits  a                                                               
felony, he or she will be transferred.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEEPLES replied that it  depends on the classification of the                                                               
misdemeanor and on the community.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KOOKESH asked  if all  vacancies for  probation officers                                                               
have been filled.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:53:34 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PEEPLES  replied that  seven  Parole  Officer positions  are                                                               
vacant at this time.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH said the highest  number of those on probation or                                                               
parole,  per  capita,  are  Alaska Natives.  He  asked  how  many                                                               
probation officers  are Alaska Natives.  He also asked  what kind                                                               
of  steps the  department  is  taking in  terms  of getting  more                                                               
Alaska Native probation officers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT said  the department  has not  specifically                                                               
addressed  probation  officers,  but  about 7  percent  of  state                                                               
correctional employees  are Alaska  Native. He believes  about 16                                                               
percent of  Alaska is Alaska Native,  but that 36 percent  of the                                                               
prison  population  is Alaska  Native.  The  department is  below                                                               
target  for  Alaska  Native   probation  officers.  The  training                                                               
academy  director, who  is  in charge  of  recruitment, said  the                                                               
problem is a low number  of Alaska Native applicants. The feeling                                                               
is that Alaska  Native applicants are not being  turned away, but                                                               
rather that they aren't applying for the position.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH  asked if a  college degree is still  required to                                                               
be a probation officer.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT said yes, a  college degree or experience as                                                               
a corrections officer is needed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEEPLES   said  the  requirements  and   specifications  for                                                               
probation officers  were recently revised with  greater allowance                                                               
for  substitutions  for   the  education  qualification.  Several                                                               
people have worked their way up through the ranks that way.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:56:05 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KOOKESH asked what is being  done about the low number of                                                               
Alaska  Native parole  officers.  The recidivism  rate in  Alaska                                                               
will  not improve  unless there  are probation  officers who  can                                                               
connect with those on parole.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT agreed and  said that the degree requirement                                                               
had been modified  to consider work experience in  its place. The                                                               
Bethel field  office has filled  its positions by  using Criminal                                                               
Justice Technicians  that started  out in  that office.  It comes                                                               
back to recruitment  and enticing people to apply  - for example,                                                               
at a booth at the fair.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MENARD  asked if  she  heard  correctly that  Commissioner                                                               
Schmidt said a booth at the fair.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT  replied  yes,  a booth  at  the  fair  was                                                               
started, but just for general  applicants, not targeted to Alaska                                                               
Natives.  The  Kenai  College  has  a  corrections  certification                                                               
program now.  None of these  things focus on getting  more Alaska                                                               
Native applicants, but  just focus on getting  more applicants in                                                               
general.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH  suggested that maybe  the Village  Public Safety                                                               
Officer (VPSO) Program  should look at taking the  next step into                                                               
the probation field and that experience  could count in lieu of a                                                               
college  degree.  He hoped  Commissioner  Schmidt  would look  at                                                               
suggestions  from the  Native community  statewide to  get Alaska                                                               
Natives into the probation or officer programs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN  asked Commissioner Schmidt about  the increasing                                                               
sentencing functions over the next  decade and what related costs                                                               
the Legislature should think about.  He also stated that he knows                                                               
that the  court system  for the  Interior Alaska  Fourth Judicial                                                               
District  had a  20  percent increase  in  criminal case  filings                                                               
through December  1st and wanted  to know if the  Fourth Judicial                                                               
District has something unique that has caused this increase.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:59:47 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT responded that he  was in Kenai recently and                                                               
the probation  officers have  a caseload  of 67  where previously                                                               
they have  had 100. The  District Attorney changed and  along him                                                               
the  philosophy  of  who  gets   charged  and  who  doesn't.  The                                                               
department is working  on formalizing a task force  for a reentry                                                               
plan  and therefore  possibly qualifying  for some  federal grant                                                               
money. Secure confinement is the  most expensive piece; it is the                                                               
most effective  for immediate protection but  the least effective                                                               
for recidivism.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PASKVAN  said the time  between filing to  sentencing can                                                               
be long. If  there is a 20 percent increase  in criminal filings,                                                               
this  may  result  in  a  percent impact  on  the  Department  of                                                               
Corrections.  He is  wondering if  this is  unique to  the Fourth                                                               
Judicial District  and if  Commissioner Schmidt  coordinates with                                                               
the court system.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:03:17 AM                                                                                                                   
COMMISSIONER  SCHMIDT  responded  that anything  lengthening  the                                                               
adjudication period,  any extra  day served pre-trial,  comes off                                                               
of  the  other  end  and  is one  less  day  served  after  being                                                               
sentenced. The overall time of  incarceration mayt not change. It                                                               
creates a  population management situation but  not necessarily a                                                               
monetary situation. Pretrial beds are  a little more expensive to                                                               
run, but the department does not react too strongly to that.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He said that  the 20 percent increase in criminal  filings is not                                                               
unique  to  the  Fourth  Judicial District  and  that  they  have                                                               
connected well  with the  courts. The  department was  invited to                                                               
the judicial conference and meets with judges routinely.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:05:07 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MENARD thanked  everyone for their comments  and finding no                                                               
further business to come before  the committee, she adjourned the                                                               
Senate State Affairs Standing Committee at 10:05 a.m.                                                                           

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